This page was originally set up to consider the New York Independent System Operator (NYISO) Carbon Pricing Initiative but it now includes all my posts on carbon pricing including the Hochul Administration’s proposal to implement a cap and invest program.
New York has goals to substantially reduce CO2 emissions. The Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act has targets to reduce GHG emissions to 60 percent of 1990 emissions levels in 2030, generate zero GHG emissions from electricity production by 2040; and ensure GHG emissions are less than 15 percent of 1990 emissions levels in 2050, with offsets to reduce net emissions to zero. Historically Renewable Energy Credits (RECs) and Zero-Emission Credits (ZECs) have been used to subsidize non-CO2 emitting sources. However, these are difficult to implement so the NYISO has proposed a carbon-pricing initiative. The Brattle Group prepared an analysis to determine whether incorporating a state policy defined cost of carbon in the wholesale market would improve the overall efficiency of the New York Independent System Operator (NYISO) energy and capacity markets.
The theory of carbon pricing is discussed in a Brattle presentation. It could internalize environmental costs and foster competition to meet energy and environmental goals cost effectively by putting a price on carbon dioxide emissions in the wholesale market. The plan is to set a cost of carbon and add that charge to the wholesale price so that CO2 emitters pay for their societal impacts. However, the devil is in the details and there are few critical voices participating in the process.
Advocates for cap and dividend programs claim that “they will make corporate polluters pay their fair share, ensure compliance with emission reduction goals, and fund beneficial investments. They do not acknowledge that there are limitations to the claims and that they conflict with each other. It is magical to think that the fees imposed will not impact consumers even if “corporate polluters” pay. The idea that setting a limit on pollution will necessarily result in pollution reductions is naïve because eliminating GHG emissions is more difficult than acknowledged. Danny Cullenward and David Victor’s book Making Climate Policy Work note that the level of expenditures needed to implement the net-zero transition vastly exceeds the “funds that can be readily appropriated from market mechanisms”. They don’t expect that a carbon tax can fund the necessary infrastructure to reduce emissions but advocates claim that the revenues wll funds for beneficial investments. Observations of existing programs described here indicate that these programs will not work as advertised.
Because there are not many critical voices I describe my understanding of the basis of the rationale for a carbon price and explain some of the complexities associated with implementing such a program. New York State energy planning is trying to choose between many expensive policy options like pricing carbon in the electric sector while at the same time attempting to understand which one (or what mix) will be the least expensive and have the fewest negative impacts on the existing system. If they make a good pick then state ratepayers spend the least amount of a lot of money, but if they get it wrong we will be left with lots of negative outcomes and even higher costs for a long time.
Recent New York Cap-and-Invest Discussion Posts
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RGGI Cap-and-Invest Emission Reduction Performance in NY December 30, 2025
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December 2025 New York Cap and Invest Program Update December 2, 2025
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New York Cap and Invest Litigation July 29, 2025
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New York Cap and Invest Update June 13, 2025
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Assemblyman Stirpe and New York Cap and Invest March 27, 2025
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NYCI Status February 2025 February 13, 2025
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Governor Hochul Executive Budget Climate Funding January 22, 2025
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Response to NYCI Delay January 20, 2025
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NYCI State of the State Update January 16, 2025
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New York Affordable Energy Future January 14, 2025
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New York Cap-and-Invest Issues to Resolve in 2025 January 10, 2025
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Comments on RGGI Performance and Implications for NYCI December 26, 2024
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Washington State Goes One for Three on the Pragmatic Climate Scale…Maybe November 26, 2024 (Washington State failed to recall their version of NYCI)
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Citizen’s Budget Commission Comments on New York Cap-and-Invest October 31, 2024
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Personal Comments on the Allocation of New York Cap-and-Invest Proceeds September 30, 2024
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New York Cap and Invest – The Role of Cap-and-Invest January 26, 2024
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NYCI Webinar Preliminary Scenario Analyses – Cost Projections February 2, 2024
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Howarth’s Adverse Impact on New York Cap-and-Invest February 3, 2023
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My New York Cap and Invest Pre-Proposal Outline Comments March 11, 2024
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New York Assembly Cap and Dividend Naiveté May 17, 2024
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June 2024 Update on the New York Cap-and-Invest Plan June 26, 2024
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August 2024 Update on the New York Cap-and-Invest Plan August 25, 2024
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Vermont Clean Heat Standard Lessons for New York October 2, 2024
2023 Cap and Invest Discussion Posts
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Citizens Budget Commission on New York Cap and Invest December 7, 2023
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Washington State Hints At New York Climate Act Future September 7, 2023
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New York Cap-and-Invest Update and Another Conundrum September 1, 2023
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Guest Post: Washington State Cap and Invest Update August 10, 2023
- NYCI Reference Case vs PSC First Annual Informational Report July 29, 2023
- Goals for PSC Annual Informational Report and NYCI Reference Case July 25, 2023
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Personal Comments on New York Cap and Invest Webinar Series July 9, 2023
- RGGI Investment Report Lessons for Cap and Invest Programs July 2, 2023
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Feedback from Washington State on Gas Price Increases Due to Cap and Invest July 1, 2023
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Washington State Gasoline Prices and Public Perceptions June 25, 2023
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Washington State Gasoline Prices Are a Precursor to New York’s Future June 23, 2023
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New York Cap and Invest Safety Valve June 15, 2023
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Cap and Invest Summary for All Otsego May 15, 2023 – Note that this post includes commentary for the general public.
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New York State Cap and Invest Politician Briefing March 23, 2023
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NY Climate Act Cap and Invest Plan Going Off the Rails March 19, 2023
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Climate Act Cap and Invest Program Numbers Do Not Add Up March 10, 2023
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Making Climate Policy Work, RGGI, and New York Cap and Invest February 17, 2023
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New York Annual Climate Act Cap and Invest Revenue Targets February 13, 2023
- Initial Impression of New York Cap and Invest Program January 17, 2023
New York Cap and Invest Stakeholder Process
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New York Cap & Invest Webinar 1 – Where Are We? June 3, 2023
- New York Pre-Proposal Cap and Invest Webinars June 1, 2023
Scoping Plan Economy-Wide Strategies Posts
- Climate Action Council Economywide Strategies Subgroup July 15, 2022
- Draft Scoping Plan Carbon Pricing Strategies Comment June 9, 2022
- CCIA Climate Pollution Fee April 13, 2021
General Carbon Pricing Articles
- CLCPA Simple Value of Carbon Reduction Benefits February 9, 2021
- NY Value of Carbon Cost Effectiveness February 8, 2021 – Warning long and wonky
- Response to My Comments on the New York Value of Carbon Guidance January 5, 2021
- Another Cautionary RGGI Tale from New York January 4, 2021
- My Comments on the New York Value of Carbon Guidance Document November 25, 2020
- My comments on the FERC Carbon Pricing Policy November, 18 2020
- September 2020 FERC Carbon Pricing Technical Conference October 8, 2020
- FERC Carbon Pricing Technical Conference Watts Up With That October 5, 2020
- New York Independent System Operator Siena College Carbon Pricing Poll September 29, 2020
- Carbon Price Needed to Fund Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act Reductions September 8, 2020
- NY Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act “Benefits” July 14, 2020
- Carbon Free New York May 26 2020 Letter to the Governor May 28 2020
- Carbon Free New York May 27, 2020
- Carbon Pricing is a Practical Dead End April 21, 2020 Note: Published at Watts Up With That
- NYISO Carbon Pricing Letter to the Editor February 14, 2020
- RGGI – A Cap and Tax Market Program January 4, 2020
- Not a Lot of People Know That on Carbon Taxes December 30, 2019
- Generic Carbon Pricing Issues December 13, 2019
- Analysis Group “Potential New Carbon Pricing in the NYISO Market” October 6, 2019
- Can Carbon Pricing Can Support the New York CLCPA September 30, 2019
- Layman’s Guide to My Rationale to Oppose the NYISO Carbon Pricing Concept Proposal, Dec. 27, 2018
- NYISO Carbon Pricing Concept Proposal Translation, December 18, 2018
- My November 2018 Comment on NYS Carbon Pricing, November 19, 2018
- Setting a Price for Carbon in the New York Wholesale Electric Market for the Layman, July 17,2018
- NYS Carbon Pricing Implications of Observed CO2 on Peak Hour of 2017, June 15, 2018
- NYS Carbon Pricing Initiative Discussion of Social Cost of Carbon, May 15, 2018
- Issues with the Social Cost of Carbon 2, March 29, 2018
- Problem with reducing emissions in only one sector, November 25 2017
- Issues with the Social Cost of Carbon 1, November 24 2017
- New York State Carbon Pricing, September 14, 2017
- New York State Carbon Pricing, September 14, 2017
- Issues with the Social Cost of Carbon 1, November 24 2017
- Problem with reducing emissions in only one sector, November 25 2017
- Issues with the Social Cost of Carbon 2, March 29, 2018
- NYS Carbon Pricing Initiative Discussion of Social Cost of Carbon, May 15, 2018
- NYS Carbon Pricing Implications of Observed CO2 on Peak Hour of 2017, June 15, 2018
- Setting a Price for Carbon in the New York Wholesale Electric Market for the Layman, July 17,2018
- My November 2018 Comment on NYS Carbon Pricing, November 19, 2018
- NYISO Carbon Pricing Concept Proposal Translation, December 18, 2018
- Layman’s Guide to My Rationale to Oppose the NYISO Carbon Pricing Concept Proposal, Dec. 27, 2018
- Can Carbon Pricing Can Support the New York CLCPA September 30, 2019
- Analysis Group “Potential New Carbon Pricing in the NYISO Market” October 6, 2019
- Generic Carbon Pricing Issues December 13, 2019
- Not a Lot of People Know That on Carbon Taxes December 30, 2019
- RGGI – A Cap and Tax Market Program January 4, 2020
- NYISO Carbon Pricing Letter to the Editor February 14, 2020
- Carbon Pricing is a Practical Dead End April 21, 2020 Note: Published at Watts Up With That
- Carbon Free New York May 27, 2020
- Carbon Free New York May 26 2020 Letter to the Governor May 28 2020
- NY Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act “Benefits” July 14, 2020
- Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act Value of Carbon July 21, 2020
- Court Decision: Interim Social Cost of Greenhouse Gas Metric July 28, 2020
- Carbon Price Needed to Fund Climate Leadership and Community Protection Act Reductions September 8, 2020
- New York Independent System Operator Siena College Carbon Pricing Poll September 29, 2020
- FERC Carbon Pricing Technical Conference Watts Up With That October 5, 2020
- September 2020 FERC Carbon Pricing Technical Conference October 8, 2020
- My comments on the FERC Carbon Pricing Policy November, 18 2020
- My Comments on the New York Value of Carbon Guidance Document November 25, 2020
- Another Cautionary RGGI Tale from New York January 4, 2021
- Response to My Comments on the New York Value of Carbon Guidance January 5, 2021
- NY Value of Carbon Cost Effectiveness February 8, 2021 – Warning long and wonky
- CLCPA Simple Value of Carbon Reduction Benefits February 9, 2021
- CCIA Climate Pollution Fee April 13, 2021
